No age restrictions for Cupid’s bow

A major change in attitudes over the years means that more and more older people are embarking on new relationships, writes June Edwards.

DatingA generation ago, finding love again, or even for the first time, wasn’t quite the done thing for people over a certain age. But all that has changed, according to recent research by sociologist Peppar Schwartz of the University of Washington, who studies relationships between older adults.

“Falling in love at an elderly age was seen as somewhere between unwise and dementia,” she said, adding that it was a common believe that only “dirty old men” pursued sex. As for moving in together, that was just plain “living in sin”.

Thankfully, it’s a lot more acceptable these days. “People who wouldn’t have let their daughters into the house if they were cohabiting are now doing the same thing,” says Schwartz. Indeed, research shows that older adults are the fastest-growing group of co-habitors and users of internet dating services in the US – trends that look set to catch on here.

In Ireland, organisations such as Third Age Foundation and Active Retirement (AR) are popular options for anyone in the 55-plus age group. And, with 33% of over-65s widowed, and 17% of this age group never married, according to a recent Economic and Social Research Institute report, there’s a significant number of older people free to form new relationships.

Helene Boran, administrator with AR, agrees that new relationships are common among older people. “Mostly, people join for friendship and finding like-minded people to do things with, but plenty of people also start new relationships too, and attitudes have changed over the years,” she says.

“Our profile has become younger in recent years, largely because people are retiring younger now and because we’re not seen as old fuddy-duddies anymore,” she adds. According to Boran, 60 is now the average age that people join AR, although the organisation is open to anyone over 55. AR Ireland has 24,000 members in 469 branches around the country.

“Active Retirement caters for all tastes and each group decides on its own activities. There is everything from Tai Chi to theatre visits, along with walking, discussion groups, arts and crafts, computer literacy and a lot more,” explains Boran. “Active Retirement groups also offer trips abroad and short hotel breaks in Ireland, which is another great way for people to make new friendships or start relationships.”

She says that computer literacy is growing among older people, facilitating easy access to the internet. In fact, internet dating is proving popular with older people. Recently, an 81-year-old retired Chinese art professor married a 58-year-old woman he met on the net. Here, websites such as www.fiftyalready.com and www.datingforseniors.com have Irish sections on their sites.

However, Schwartz points out that, despite rising numbers of older couples forming relationships, marriage rates remain low. Worries over pensions, children’s inheritance rights and property issues are the main reasons that older couples opt for just living together or, more commonly, dating but retaining separate homes.

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  1. Greeneyes wrote:
    Greeneyes
    I think we are living in a wonderful age. In my parents time when a partner passed over the remaining partner had to follow the unwritten
    rule and that was "there was only one man/woman for me and now
    he/she has gone" so life really came to a standstill and what after that
    nothing. In 2009+ it is welcomed if your Mother or Father goes out and meets somebody else. When you are over a certain age and you
    are meeting somebody new from a woman's point of view, it is different equally as exciting but different, and friendship/relationship
    can have you feeling as though you are a kid again!
  2. Finn wrote:
    Totally agree
    Yes, we're all living much longer, healthier lives. There is no reason we can't love more than one person in our lifetime. Besides, our kids are so busy working we'll need to find another partner for support and companionship!
  3. Pennywise wrote:
    Pennywise
    I was lonely for a long time and knew I had to do something about it. Eventually I plucked up the courage to join a writers and art group. I
    was nervous going the first night but found we were all in the same boat, feeling awkward, that soon passed. I look forward to every week
    and finishing off with a "drink" in the local. We even plan weekends away. There is life after children believe me.
  4. Greeneyes wrote:
    One of my lifelong friends has got herself another Man!
    I am teasing Maureen one of my close friends because she met a really
    lovely guy in our writing class and they have been "very close" in and out of our class. Maureen will not admit it but I think she is IN LOVE!
    You should see her, her eyes are sparkling actually they are dancing and she is clothes shopping, I have to say she looks a million dollars.
    The lovely gent who shall be nameless is loving the situation also. I
    think he likes the fact that he has a female companion to full over and
    Maureen treats him like he is her toy boy. Do I sound jealous? I am.
    To be continued Ha!
  5. helena10 wrote:
    Creative10
    I am a 56 year old female and feeling quite lost. I know AR age group starts at 55, but to my mind this is not elderly but middle aged. I seem to be finding it harder and harder to relate to todays world as a middle aged woman. Does any one else find this.

    Years ago in our mothers time, at least we would have behaved in a certain way and been accepted by yound and old in that way. Nowadays it is different.

    As a 56 year old it feels a bit like puberty all over again. In that one is not a child anymore yet one is not an adult either. I am not a 30 something anymore but neither am I elderly. I am on some new kind of cusp it seems. Does anyone else (female) feel like this. I find I don't have the energy to stay out late anymore (maybe once a month perhaps) and pay for it for the next 2 weeks.

    I am not particularly attracted to most men that are older than me and I think probably they feel the same way about me in that they live in hope of a woman younger than me finding them attractive. Its a bit of a conundrum of which I seem to be getting more and more depressed.

    Could any other single female who has been through this stage please enlighten me before I lose the plot altogether.

    Cheers !!
  6. Daisy wrote:
    To Helena10
    I know exactly what you mean about "fitting into age and I agree it is like the transition from teenage to adult. In my opinion this mindset belongs with previous generations and it is typically European, I spend a my holidays in California and I hire a motorbike when I am over there
    I am 59 and nobody pays a blind bit of notice, I drive a 125cc scooter
    here and all I hear is "you are great" I'm not great I am me living the
    way I want to and knowing life is not a rehersal. So Helena rethink and
    make some changes until you fit into your life, I did, All the Best.
  7. Johnnie wrote:
    Ladies do you mind if I butt in?
    Helena, I agree with Daisy. Nobody out there really cares what you are thinking they are too busy doing the same old things day in and day out. Carve out your own lifestyle and live it to the full. Don't wait for somebody to go on holiday with for instance, go on your own and meet up with new friends. Change your views and it will show on
    the outside. Your thoughts always show on your face, a woman told
    me that and she is right.
  8. greyish wrote:
    Social dating
    I took courage and surfed around the net. Some of the sites were very of putting. I found one recently called flirtyoverforty.com. I like the idea of emailing someone elsewhere and having online chat. Ireland is among the countries. For anyone thinking about website, just browse around, do what you comfortable with and take it from there.
  9. greyish wrote:
    dating again
    I have been enjoying online chat on www.flirtyoverforty.com. I have not been sleeping so well so find it handy. Worth a look. The other senior sites mentioned seem a bit old looking.
  10. Berni wrote:
    Why is getting older so Hard ?
    I am normally a positive person, but, now in my fifties, with the last child has left the nest, or at least drops in only for financial top ups, I am not sure what to do now. ?

    I am divorced, enjoy my work, mostly, but find I dont have a personal life. I hate bank holidays, I just want to stay home, and not have to face all the couples and families who are enjoying their lives together.

    I cant plan a holiday, who would I go with? Why is getting older so hard ?

    Thats my rant for today.
    I, Like Helena, am not ready for AR yet, I am not retired, I work hard, every day, but would like to socialise with other fifthsomethings. B
  11. Sue wrote:
    Sudddenly a bit lonely
    Now and then it would be lovely to have someone to ring and have a natter with but suddenly I find Im mostly alone - pubs seem a bit for the young and I am not looking for a man so a friend would be nice.The kids have gone and Im a bit redundant - what to do where to go ? Im 55 any ideas -I joined a ladies club it was not really for me all a bit competitive in an odd way so I left after a month it made me feel really old - . North County Dublin.
  12. helena101427 wrote:
    over 50's
    Hi Berni and Sue

    Your both talking my language. We seem to be on the same planet. Thank God somebody is. I was beginning to think I was all alone.

    I would be only too happy to have a natter with either of you ladies.

    Berni have you read Johnnie's suggestion of going on holiday alone.
    I know its a big step but I have done this and you really do meet other people who are alone, but you have to choose where and when you go.
    For instance, it might not be a good idea to go to Santa Ponsa on your own in August say,....but to go on a singles trip with The Travel Deparment or some other such co would be an idea.

    As we 3 have admitted that we are on this cusp that I talked about (not old and not young) that it might be a good idea to try and mix with people about 46 to 50. Both men and women. That way we can stay mentally within that age group rather than 55 going on 60 if you see what i mean. Worth a try eh girls !!
  13. helena101427 wrote:
    over 50's
    I hope I haven't put anyone off ! there are days when I just want to mix with my own age group too . But I like to push the envelope out a bit now and then. Keeps me young, or believing that I am at any rate.
  14. helena101427 wrote:
    anybody there ??
  15. midlander1 wrote:
    Lots of truth out there
    I am reading lots of these messages and it's like i'm seeing mirror images of my own situation. I did join a group and they were more focused on trying to play sociable games( bowls, darts, snooker) they just didn't do anything for me. I enjoyed the company but I didn't want to be committed to attending every single function or sports day that was arranged. I like my own space sometimes and I know lots of other people are the same . I think being able to have a chat with someone is lovely. I'm 60, male and I love being out there with friends but when the front door is shut, life becomes a bit suffocating. I'd advise anyone to try lots of different groups. Don't settle for the first one that you attend. Enjoy the life.
 

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